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Post by phaedron on Apr 2, 2012 21:24:00 GMT -8
DN: I suppose Pres. Bush's ability to never read a teleprompter and just completely mispronounce just about everything that came out his lips shows what a free thinker he was? lol.
Rand:
I really don't think CNN is the same CNN you saw years back. If there's a specific program you're talking about, I can speak to that.
And if on Faux, you're talking about Alan Colmes or something like that, you've GOTTA be smart enough to know that they just put him up there as a straw man for Hannity to whack at.
What's the redistribution of wealth? Taxes? You've seen graphics depicting tax brackets over the past 50 years and how they've shifted towards giving the wealthy more money, correct?
If he's a socialist, I'm porky the effing pig... bailing out privately-owned corporations with my tax dollars is not socialism. That's fascism.
slight derail... *walks away slowly*
PS: Has anyone else noticed how all the Republican icons these days are named "Joe"? I'm glad I am blissfully ignorant of this latest "Sheriff" guy... but didn't you also love "Joe the Plumber"? lol.
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Post by doornail on Apr 3, 2012 9:01:13 GMT -8
wasn't comparing the two, but since you went there Bush would answer questions after speaches, Obama wont unless they are staged questions from selected individuals, he calls thier names without knowing where they are sitting. Bush pointed at hands raised. Every speach Obama makes is scripted beforehand(when they're not scripted it's the same old drum beat with poor little Jimmy's tumor needs healthcare, more blaming of the other side and roads and bridges), Bush would wing it at times and I'm not saying one is smarter than the other, I'm saying one knew how to lead a country better than the other did and it shows in our wallets, our gas and food prices and our high unemployment rate. I think the downward spiral that this country is seeing that is obvious now started about 4 Presidents ago, with both sides to blame, when the people realize that we can fix it, but untill then we're heading for hard times. socialist, fascism or communism it doesn't matter, the more people wake up from the dream that thier multitude of toys/entertainment that has kept everyone occupied, could suddenly come to an end by the collapse of our economy, they'll finally realize that something has gone wrong. The "in your face" type reductions in our freedoms will stop then, as there will be no hiding what is going on. (an example will be Obamacare, if that passes we might as well wad our Constitution up and throw it away as the individual mandate directly violates it), hopefully it wont be too late to return to a system that has proven itself in the past and correct our mistakes. ***
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Post by phaedron on Apr 3, 2012 12:31:59 GMT -8
Funny thing is DN, we both believe two things in common:
1) The U.S. Constitution is being systematically shredded by forces that are more concerned with their own welfare than that of the U.S. as a whole.
2) The masses are being kept in a perpetual state of compliance by an ever-expanding array of technological toys.
We just completely disagree on who is masterminding this operation, and what needs to be done to stop it.
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Post by King Wulfgar on Apr 3, 2012 15:31:10 GMT -8
So with out stirring the coals I will just say I agree with everybody on something or another I try not to belittle people if I can. The Republicans and Democrats are just the right and left hand of a single body. It has been that way for awhile , some say it started with JFK, I have even heard Abraham Lincoln's name mentioned. Some people say George Thuro is behind everything or the Saudi Princess could be pulling the strings since they have all that money. I honestly don't know as far as what to do about it everybody has their opinion and some of it shouldn't be posted on the web do to homeland security
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Post by King Wulfgar on Apr 3, 2012 15:48:03 GMT -8
SO with that said anybody have any thoughts as to what might happen on 12/21/2012 if anything does happen.
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Post by phaedron on Apr 3, 2012 15:56:03 GMT -8
That's not so much a conspiracy, as a few people who don't understand that calendars generally don't continue into infinity. That said, if the world did come to an end, I don't think any of us would be particularly sad about it... being ended and all
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Post by doornail on Apr 3, 2012 19:14:15 GMT -8
look up "Galactic Alignment" for info on the 12/21/12 date KW
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Post by King Wulfgar on Apr 3, 2012 19:15:19 GMT -8
Ya I know change of pace.. ;D
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Post by King Wulfgar on Apr 3, 2012 19:16:03 GMT -8
Ok thanks DN
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Post by Amarynth on Apr 3, 2012 19:29:52 GMT -8
Actually, all of this is an incredible masterminded plan by the devious Pee Wee Herman in his quest to brainwash us all and take over the world.
DN: I'm loving the crop circles vid. Have always been interested in those.
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Post by doornail on Apr 3, 2012 21:48:34 GMT -8
lol @ pee wee's plot to rule the world ;D
I like looking at the crop circles too, some of them are truly amazing.
right, this is what is holding our country back(the division between the two political parties) , unfortunatly I have no clue how to bridge the gap, but I'd say the more that we stay divided, the easier it is for the powers that be to control us all. The way they're printing money and placing it on the taxpayer to owe, we'll all end up poor for generations.
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Post by doornail on Apr 5, 2012 21:36:54 GMT -8
Interesting vid here, seems we've lost skills/technology over the years. I found several arrowheads/pieces of arrowheads and a couple tomahawks last year..Being curious, I tried to make one and it's alot harder than you think it would be to sharpen a rock into something that even remotely looks like an arrowhead. I made a couple that resemble "blanks", but I'm a long way from having the skill needed to finish one.
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Post by phaedron on Apr 7, 2012 10:23:52 GMT -8
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Post by doornail on Apr 8, 2012 6:23:08 GMT -8
^^ right, that's just more into the grand plan to control the masses, with more rights being stepped on and convincing the population that it's nessesary for our safety.
what bothers me is homeland security purchasing an ammunition that is designed to kill(equal to the black talon ammo that was banned in the 90"s), bullet proof checkpoint booths and the rumor of FEMA camps popping up all over the country.
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Post by King Wulfgar on Apr 8, 2012 9:20:47 GMT -8
I do believe they bought 45 million rounds and I heard about the fema camps that's what all the military movements been about. I did not hear about the check points though , that's why for years I've been reluctant to get my concealed carry permit . With out it I still have complete deniability .
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